View Full Version : Mr. Logic's Hidden Riddles
Cosmic
05-15-2006, 08:01 PM
Stuck on 18 too... Would be grateful for a hint!
trolly
05-15-2006, 08:09 PM
See post #486 about 18.
Cosmic
05-15-2006, 08:16 PM
See post #486 about 18.
I saw that but I still can't find a thing. Probably playing the game for too long now... A more blatant hint would be very welcome!
Samuel
05-15-2006, 08:19 PM
this one i found to be very difficult, but Big Z on simplecodeworks left a good hint, u have to look deeper into the picture to find what you are looking for
Cosmic
05-15-2006, 08:27 PM
Maybe my version of Paint is not good enough then. I tried all tools but still can't find a thing. This is frustrating!
Samuel
05-15-2006, 08:34 PM
who said anything about paint?
Cosmic
05-15-2006, 08:37 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I completely missed that! You're a star!
Samuel
05-15-2006, 08:40 PM
if you are directing that to me you are welcome, but good luck on the next one it is very tricky!
SuperwormJim
05-15-2006, 08:41 PM
Ok .... what program, instead of paint, am I supposed to use ?
Samuel
05-15-2006, 08:44 PM
if i told you that i might as well give you the answer!
(which i wont)
Queenadadrums
05-16-2006, 01:11 AM
hey guys i just started working on this game a couple of hours ago. I was wondering if ne1 could be so kind as to pm me the answers for #9-whatever everyone is at? This way I can be caught up and start helping everyone. Please!!
pkticker
05-16-2006, 02:45 AM
On level 16 the title at the top of the page is a clue to deciphering it. Beyond that I would try to decipher the possible six letter words first. It was kind of time consuming but thats how I did it. You need a hint for level 18 Trolly? I finished the game yesterday.
Okay, maybe I've lost it, but the only ideas I get from the title are to use 13 and/or 15 as the cipher for the code *sigh* I have a feeling that this is completely stupid and I am way off base. Am I overthinking it?
miladvm
05-16-2006, 04:57 AM
Samuel may seem like a star, but he learned all he knows about the last three levels from me. Hahaha Samuel and I are good buddies so he won't lie.
SuperwormJim
05-16-2006, 06:13 AM
I've reached a Dead End ... :au:
Kozepa
05-16-2006, 10:47 AM
Yep, dead end for me, too...
But we'll get there!
Cosmic
05-16-2006, 11:08 AM
Couldn't get past 19 yet either! :thk:
pkticker
05-16-2006, 05:03 PM
Ok, I'll help you .... you'll help me (I can't figure out how to decode the text of level 17).
There is only one pic, but you need to use two pics.
Are there two answers to 16, is this where you get the other pic?
SuperwormJim
05-16-2006, 05:16 PM
Are there two answers to 16, is this where you get the other pic?
No....:
Use the pic twice (make a copy)....
pkticker
05-16-2006, 06:15 PM
Ok .... what program, instead of paint, am I supposed to use ?
I'm with you... I don't want them to tell me what to use, but I suspect my computer at work is missing some vital "Accessories" programs. All I have are Paint, WordPad, Calculator, and Sound Recorder. *sigh*
SuperwormJim
05-16-2006, 06:21 PM
I'm with you... I don't want them to tell me what to use, but I suspect my computer at work is missing some vital "Accessories" programs. All I have are Paint, WordPad, Calculator, and Sound Recorder. *sigh*
That's enough ....
pkticker
05-16-2006, 06:39 PM
That's enough ....
Oookay... well then I'm just having a stupid day, 'cause I can't find anything in any of these programs.
Samuel
05-16-2006, 08:07 PM
this one is pretty tricky, just stick with it, and you'll get it eventually
SuperwormJim
05-16-2006, 08:15 PM
I've tried everything with the images on level 19 ..... nothing gives any usable result .......
Samuel
05-16-2006, 08:28 PM
have you seen mr. logics hint on simplecodeworks.com? he almost gives it away
pkticker
05-16-2006, 08:37 PM
this one is pretty tricky, just stick with it, and you'll get it eventually
I have discovered that yes, I am in fact stupid. I tried that once and it didn't work... tried it again and it did. Maybe my computer hates me.
Thanks!
SuperwormJim
05-16-2006, 08:37 PM
Yes, I've seen that hint. But I didn't play that game .....
Sibylline
05-16-2006, 09:12 PM
I'm still stuck on level 7. There is no background, mask or otherwise, and the mask in the link that was attached in a post here doesn't show any squares where the letters can come through. Help?
SuperwormJim
05-16-2006, 09:16 PM
I'm still stuck on level 7. There is no background, mask or otherwise, and the mask in the link that was attached in a post here doesn't show any squares where the letters can come through. Help?
Are you sure about that?
And try Mr. Logic's hint: As paradoxical as it may seem, one bit can sometimes provide more information than can many bits!
When you get to Level 06-07, try using the Windows Paint program to save the image as a Monochrome Bitmap and see what happens.
Sibylline
05-16-2006, 09:24 PM
Nope, doesn't make a difference.
I'm still stuck on level 7. There is no background, mask or otherwise, and the mask in the link that was attached in a post here doesn't show any squares where the letters can come through. Help?
Adjust your monitors brightness or look at the source code. You might see what your missing.
Sibylline
05-16-2006, 09:30 PM
I've done both already.
Am I correct in thinking that you are on the level after the "google is your friend" level?
Sibylline
05-16-2006, 09:35 PM
Correct.
There is a background on that level, but it is not easy to see though. Look harder. There is more than one way to find it.
Sibylline
05-16-2006, 09:40 PM
I see it dimly, but when I save or copy/paste it into paint, it's just a grey square. I've also tried manipulating that square once in paint, but it doesn't reveal anything.
praisingfool
05-16-2006, 09:48 PM
the background is definitely a mask. have you tried using the fill all tool in paint to see if it reveals the boxes clearer?
I just sent you a PM with what to do Sibylline.
Sibylline
05-16-2006, 09:50 PM
Yes, Praisingfool, that was the first thing I tried. Thanks, Jack, I will check out that PM right away.
Queenadadrums
05-16-2006, 09:50 PM
can some1 catch me up? I'm on 16. I want to help you guys but I cant get caught up. so if some1 could please catch me up I promise I'll try my hardest to help
praisingfool
05-16-2006, 09:54 PM
can some1 catch me up? I'm on 16. I want to help you guys but I cant get caught up. so if some1 could please catch me up I promise I'll try my hardest to help
I'm still stuck on 16. Have been for 2 days. All I know is that it's a caesar cipher, but I have no idea exactly where to put the mask or what the shift it. I suspect that it is either 13, 14, or 15, but i'm not sure.
Queenadadrums
05-16-2006, 09:58 PM
praising fool:
Ok well thanx. I'll tell you if i find anything out. Do you know how many levels there are supposed to be?
pkticker
05-16-2006, 10:25 PM
I'm still stuck on 16. Have been for 2 days. All I know is that it's a caesar cipher, but I have no idea exactly where to put the mask or what the shift it. I suspect that it is either 13, 14, or 15, but i'm not sure.
You have to flip the mask around a bit and just try a few places until you find a word. Once you figure out the shift, just try it on the longest word (the 6-letter column) until you find a word. It takes a while, believe me!
praisingfool
05-16-2006, 10:28 PM
Will you at least tell me what the shift is? i just tried 13, 14, and 15 and none of them work. i also know that 3 doesn't work because i tried that the other day.
headofred92
05-16-2006, 10:34 PM
I cannot get passed level 9 at all!!!!!
I'm so dumb!!!!!!!!!!
I need a really, really, really big hint!!!!
praisingfool
05-16-2006, 10:36 PM
Oh... it's similar to a previous level. There are three separate images in this one, rather than just two.
headofred92
05-16-2006, 10:38 PM
it has the box with atbash
i found the letters, and i kno atbash, but other than that ????????????????????
praisingfool
05-16-2006, 10:41 PM
check the background imageS
headofred92
05-16-2006, 10:45 PM
where would the other two images be!!!
i only have the backround
p.s. thanx for helpin
praisingfool
05-16-2006, 10:47 PM
did you look at the source file to see what images were used on the page?
headofred92
05-16-2006, 10:49 PM
i have the image called back
i need the one called ground
and does the atbash image count as one of the three images also???
praisingfool
05-16-2006, 10:51 PM
yes. the two images (back and ground) will form your mask to apply to the letters. then "atbash" is your clue to decipher.
headofred92
05-16-2006, 10:56 PM
will the source code tell me were to find ground
I mean, will it be in order???
praisingfool
05-16-2006, 10:57 PM
you'll have to click around until you find it. do a little grunt work!
headofred92
05-16-2006, 10:57 PM
the source makes me think it is right above the atbash box
headofred92
05-16-2006, 11:02 PM
uhhhhhhhhhhh
headofred92
05-16-2006, 11:11 PM
i think ive cliked absolutely everywhere!!!
praisingfool
05-16-2006, 11:18 PM
give me the URL for that level, i didn't do that level on this comp so it's not in my history
headofred92
05-16-2006, 11:21 PM
here
http://www.simplecodeworks.com/covert/09-3960/
headofred92
05-16-2006, 11:25 PM
i got to go, send me a personal message to my box
praisingfool
05-16-2006, 11:25 PM
http://www.simplecodeworks.com/covert/09-3960/ground.gif
pkticker
05-17-2006, 01:01 AM
I've reached a Dead End ... :au:
Dead End...?!? That ain't right!
And I haven't played that other Mr. Logic game, so I don't know what his clue over at simplecodeworks.com means...
I need a little inspiration!!!!! :thk:
Samuel
05-17-2006, 01:13 AM
you'll be kicking yourself after you figure this one out, then again you might want to kick Mr. Logic instead
almightybob
05-17-2006, 01:29 AM
By the way guys, there's a much easier and faster way to get a background image than just randomly clicking for ages. All you have to do is:
1) Look at the source code to find out the name of the image, for example mask.bmp.
2) Add the name to the end of the address for that level, for example www.simplecodeworks.com/covert/01-armstrong/mask.bmp
And hey presto, it is yours.
pkticker
05-17-2006, 01:49 AM
you'll be kicking yourself after you figure this one out, then again you might want to kick Mr. Logic instead
Great... I can't even fathom where to start... just tell me this... do the 2 pics on the site have ANYTHING to do with it, or is Mr. Logic just messing with my poor brain?
SuperwormJim
05-17-2006, 06:02 AM
Maybe the "Dead End" has something to do with it?
I don't know .... just exploring the possibilities .....
iamanorange
05-17-2006, 07:47 PM
i have managed to get a message in the wav file but i still can't hear it clearly. Can somebody please send an email to iamanorange@gmail.com about what i should do next
thanks
ok i found the mask and the diagonal lines, but i must be very dumb cause i don?t know what to do with them, can someone please help me?
Cosmic
05-17-2006, 08:13 PM
Google "Atbash" for level 9!
Google "Atbash" for level 9!
thank you so much, i don?t know how i didin?t think about that two days ago!!
Samuel
05-17-2006, 11:30 PM
4th place!
butterphish
05-18-2006, 12:22 AM
how am i supposed to get the letters into paint???? i tried printing to file but when i go to open it it reads that this is an invalid file and is not supported mask will save but how am i supposed to apply it to letters if i dont have a printer?
SuperwormJim
05-18-2006, 09:16 AM
4th place!
Congrat, well done!
I'm still working on level 19. Tried everything ...... Right now I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the Dead End?
I'll trade somebody a good hint for level 19 if they have finished the Podcast Riddle and can give me a good hint to the path split I have missed in that game. I need the second wav file for 90 and have found dead ends at 83, 82, 44, 33, and 27.
praisingfool
05-19-2006, 12:38 AM
i'm still stuck on 16, so i think i give up.
butterphish
05-20-2006, 01:28 AM
have decoded the question but am unsure how to find the answer can anybody help please
sforsuper
05-20-2006, 06:18 PM
Eeeks, all lvl18, some1 help me at lvl10 pls...
I managed to combine and change the properties abit, i got a sound i still cant hear properly and its scary!!
butterphish
05-21-2006, 03:55 AM
is the message in stereo or mono? now just take your time slow down and relax try to make out what he is saying. did you know da vinci used to write messages to himself backwards so that no one else could understand them- smees ti naht redrah s'ti ,ti yrt
Ensorcelle
05-21-2006, 06:18 AM
Hello,
I hope no one will find this presumptuous, but I need some help with level 10. I have impaired hearing. Would someone mind pm'ing me?
I have been having a lot of fun with the previous levels and would like to continue...
Thank you.
-EDIT-
Thank you for the question. I have reached 13!
Ensorcelle
05-21-2006, 06:51 PM
Now stuck on 17 :(
-EDIT-
Got it! :) (and I also seem to be talking to myself...lol)
-EDIT (again)-
Ugh...20 -> Dead End? :head:
Karyn
05-22-2006, 06:02 PM
I need some serious help with 16.
I know the mask has to be resized and rotated, but where is it posistioned? It's the the longest column in the top left or the bottom right? I keep putting all these differing things through the ceasar ciphar, but I get nothing.
Gesst
05-23-2006, 06:51 AM
I need some serious help with 16.
I know the mask has to be resized and rotated, but where is it posistioned? It's the the longest column in the top left or the bottom right? I keep putting all these differing things through the ceasar ciphar, but I get nothing.are you shifting the letters 13 ("unlucky") positions?
Marina
05-24-2006, 12:33 AM
ok, i?m having troubles in level 10. i don?t know i have something to search for in this audio, but i don?t know how!
sorry for my english, i?m brasilian
iamanorange
05-24-2006, 06:19 PM
to do 10
change to mono
then reverse
then slow down a bit
do all this in sound recorder
the message will talk about a fibonaci number with 9 digits. i couldnt hear the rest. i just pasted all th 9 digit ones in (there arent many)
Now tell me how to do 11!
Karyn
05-24-2006, 07:52 PM
Actually I found the answer to 16.
http://www.antilles.k12.vi.us/math/cryptotut/caesar4.htm It runs through all possible shifts. And as it turns out it is the 13. And why I didn't make the connection that 13 was the unlucky number is beyond me.
anyways 17-king.
Now I can't figure out 17. I can't read the letters even after I inversed the colors.
Marina
05-24-2006, 08:07 PM
to do 10
change to mono
then reverse
then slow down a bit
do all this in sound recorder
the message will talk about a fibonaci number with 9 digits. i couldnt hear the rest. i just pasted all th 9 digit ones in (there arent many)
Now tell me how to do 11!
thank you this helped me a lot, i?m on 11 now. i?ll try to help you!
Marina
05-24-2006, 08:28 PM
ok i?ve got two images one that seems like a mask, but i don?t get anything when i put them together, just random letters.
and you iamanorange can you get any further than this?
ok just foun out that i have to know where to put the mask. i?ve tried every bit of the letters and come out with nothing, so if anyone wanna help me! :apl:
pkticker
05-25-2006, 01:31 AM
Congrat, well done!
I'm still working on level 19. Tried everything ...... Right now I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the Dead End?
Any luck with the Dead End level yet? I ended up going over to try the Cryptos Game, which I highly recommend...
Samuel
05-25-2006, 02:24 AM
this one is very tricky, but actually turns out to be pretty simple in the end.
the best hint i have seen is to know your enemy
i'll take you that far but you will have to figure the rest out for yourself
butterphish
05-25-2006, 04:57 AM
how am i supposed to get text out of 17? i tried pasting copy of pic onto pic can see faint outline and that's all i have been moving it around all night-any one have any advice please ---------- nevrmind found it--- :crazy: sorry
SuperwormJim
05-25-2006, 10:59 AM
this one is very tricky, but actually turns out to be pretty simple in the end.
the best hint i have seen is to know your enemy
i'll take you that far but you will have to figure the rest out for yourself
I've been working on level 19 for days now. I've seen that hint before, but I have absolutely no idea what to do with it! :shar:
butterphish
05-25-2006, 11:00 AM
Mr Logic is a cruel mean and evil genius i know that much and yet am still stuck at 19. yes i have rechecked my previous answers and yes i am sure they r correct if anyone thinks otherwise please feel free - i am about to go crazy this game is the most confusing thing ive done in years and i have kids
Samuel
05-25-2006, 10:42 PM
ok if ive told you to know your enemy, now you probably dont know him very well so how would you come to know your enemy?
butterphish
05-25-2006, 10:59 PM
u r right i am sorry for being irrational. i am going to read the book an take a break hopefully it will help me understand Mr. Logic better any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated
Samuel
05-26-2006, 12:03 AM
no no that ISNT necessary, theres a much easier and less time-consuming way to get to know him
butterphish
05-26-2006, 01:49 AM
I made it and without even catching on to all the hints until afterwards! Trust me im as amazed as u r :bis: :ura: :git: :yeahcool:
Marina
05-29-2006, 06:11 PM
hi can someone help me on level 11. i?ve the letters and the mask, but i don?t know where to put the mask... :au:
butterphish
05-30-2006, 05:24 AM
remind me wich one was 11 and i may be able to help
Marina
05-31-2006, 10:15 PM
remind me wich one was 11 and i may be able to help
level 11 is the one that have a bunch of letters in the background and a mask in the front wich is not the same size as the letters. i?m sorry if my english is not very good, i?m brazilian..
wyvern1
06-08-2006, 03:36 PM
lols dis might sound stupid but wats da answer to the math question lvl??? any1 no?? thnx
T.M.Davila
06-08-2006, 07:00 PM
u guys the answer is 3812 just go to ask and type in the equation it gives u the answer at the top
T.M.Davila
06-08-2006, 07:01 PM
now i need help with level 2
Mistery
06-08-2006, 07:03 PM
Read page 1 and 2, there are a lot of hints for level 2.
noname
06-18-2006, 04:53 AM
can anyone please help me with level nine?
ive gone through all the posts about it and ive tried al the great hints you guys gave but it still won't work. ive gotten the letters on the atbash picture. but i can't find the one that's back.gif. :[[
help??? pleasee.
sobasically
06-18-2006, 05:10 AM
^^ same personn.
i am registered now. :].
pleaseee someone help. ive been doing this for about three days now.
ahh.
zappy4
06-20-2006, 04:28 PM
Where are you at, sobasically?
Oh, btw, can someone help me with lvl 11? I've just got on it, but I have no clue what to do. I've gotten the letters and the mask, but don't have any clue where to put it. I've even checked the message boards at simplecodeworks for this lvl and they just say you need to put it in the right place, but I don't how to tell if it is the right place or not.
edit: Nvmd, I think I found it. Is the message Bowie died there?
zappy4
06-20-2006, 04:47 PM
can anyone please help me with level nine?
ive gone through all the posts about it and ive tried al the great hints you guys gave but it still won't work. ive gotten the letters on the atbash picture. but i can't find the one that's back.gif. :[[
help??? pleasee.
Go into the source inorder to find the other background image. You need to combine the two background images into one image than mask it over the atbash one. After that, you need to use atbash in order to decrypt the code.
sobasically
06-21-2006, 12:23 AM
Go into the source inorder to find the other background image. You need to combine the two background images into one image than mask it over the atbash one. After that, you need to use atbash in order to decrypt the code.
yes i did that. and i found the name of the image. but i cant figure out how to see it or find it. and i understand that i need to mask it over the atbash picture. ohh and do i have to rotate it like the other masks?
thank you.
zappy4
06-21-2006, 03:43 PM
yes i did that. and i found the name of the image. but i cant figure out how to see it or find it. and i understand that i need to mask it over the atbash picture. ohh and do i have to rotate it like the other masks?
thank you.
No, that wouldn't be necessary for this mask. This is how I did it, I put them into paint, then combined them into one. Then I pasted them into Microsoft Word. After that I pasted the image with words on it into word and changed the contrast of it all the way up to reveal more words. I pasted the words then into paint. Then the combined masks into paint and placed them over the words. If you can't see the words where the white boxes are, then you have to hit the lower box for the outline thing. Someone showed it in another post, I don't remember which post it was, though.
sobasically
06-21-2006, 08:25 PM
No, that wouldn't be necessary for this mask. This is how I did it, I put them into paint, then combined them into one. Then I pasted them into Microsoft Word. After that I pasted the image with words on it into word and changed the contrast of it all the way up to reveal more words. I pasted the words then into paint. Then the combined masks into paint and placed them over the words. If you can't see the words where the white boxes are, then you have to hit the lower box for the outline thing. Someone showed it in another post, I don't remember which post it was, though.
thanks that will help a lot.
except i can't find the second image.
[[not the atbash one]]
i can see it in the source code but i can't find it on the page. but when i click twice on the page a little highlighted line comes up but there's no picture there. and when i paste it its just a space. :/
zappy4
06-21-2006, 09:15 PM
thanks that will help a lot.
except i can't find the second image.
[[not the atbash one]]
i can see it in the source code but i can't find it on the page. but when i click twice on the page a little highlighted line comes up but there's no picture there. and when i paste it its just a space. :/
Here's an easy way to get the images. In the url, place the name of the image at the end of it. You will then go to a white screen with the image on it. That's how I found all the images.
sobasically
06-22-2006, 04:23 AM
k thanks. i have the image. but when i overlap them it doesn't make anyy sense.
zappy4
06-22-2006, 03:00 PM
k thanks. i have the image. but when i overlap them it doesn't make anyy sense.
Go to google and search for "Atbash" look for a good cypher. If you can't don't understand atbash, then it's basically a=z b=y c=x etc, etc. (The letters of the alphabet equals the opposite of them.)
sobasically
06-22-2006, 08:07 PM
k wait. so is the back.gif supposed to be like a piece of the background?
zappy4
06-22-2006, 11:35 PM
k wait. so is the back.gif supposed to be like a piece of the background?
yes. There is one called back and another called ground.
I'm stuck on lvl 12. I only get a grey screen with no words and the title reads: Level 13: +1, -1, +1, -1,.... Anyone still playing this? And if so, if you are past lvl 13, can ya help me?
fdhjdhfjkahfa
06-23-2006, 07:18 PM
I` ve only managed to see better those squares when I used print scrn and then changing contrast... that`s all for instant
get the filter and put it on the leteers
it is an atbash code
??????
06-25-2006, 02:41 PM
wats level 2 i tried 40800 it dint work. AAH!
zappy4
06-25-2006, 07:33 PM
Is that the math lvl? Did you make sure you did the math correctly?
Cheeseninja
07-29-2006, 09:56 AM
Help Me I Need Help At Lvl 2
irunN2wa11s247
07-29-2006, 11:10 PM
i need help on level 9, ive been working on it since last night and have tried going by previous posts but im still having some trouble, can someone help me please
It's been a while since I played that, is that the sound file one?
irunN2wa11s247
07-30-2006, 01:10 AM
no its the atbash one, ive got the 2 pictures and the letters and things where the letters go diagonally but i cant figure out the code or what ever
PM me the url, I'm not sure what you are refering to.
irunN2wa11s247
07-30-2006, 01:15 AM
nvmd i got it :D
ok nvmd agian i searched for the answer to the question and i keep getting the same thing but its not working (#9)
ok i sent you a PM, hopefully you can help me out here :)
If you decoded it look up that character in wikipedia for the answer.
Sorry for the delay I had to solve it again.
irunN2wa11s247
07-30-2006, 01:55 AM
ok and im still coming up with the same person for the answer but its not working for the riddle
ah-ha! got it lol i was using his whole name lol, thank you for the help though
ok i have no idea what to do with 10
Windows sound recorder might help. Cancel out the white noise with an equal sound, make two into one.
irunN2wa11s247
07-30-2006, 02:35 AM
lol that was a bunch of jiberish you know
how do you even put it on the recorder (ive never used it before obviously)
actually i think im done for the night, but thank you so much for the help!
- later
can someone help me out with 10 please
Pastel
08-20-2006, 10:33 AM
Could someone please help me with Level 14? No matter what I try I cannot get the mask to fit the letters. I found two words in the letters anyway, but I don't know if they're correct. Probably not, as I've been Googling for ages and can't find the solution. :sad: Thanks.
Bellona
10-18-2006, 04:40 PM
Can't find the background called ground! Where to click??
uknowuwanna
10-21-2006, 11:12 AM
Anyone ?
Level 2?
How u get 2 level 3?
murph_3
10-28-2006, 07:49 AM
i cant do 10!!! if you still need help bellona, i can help you.
~GH Dog~
08-11-2008, 06:38 PM
cant get level 1 lol
coolabsrocks
07-21-2009, 07:17 PM
im stuck on the level were it gives you that sound track. its says on the sound track at the botttom that its a american author born in 18** i searched and all i found was m*** t**** so can please can some one help i think its oin one of m*** t**** stories
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